Am i L27 Thunder ?
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Hmmmmm. I'm not sure what to call this. I'm starting to think there are more than 4 varieties of L027. Can you post some more pictures when you get it?
It looks like a larger version of one of mine.
It looks like a larger version of one of mine.
Matt, I think it would be very safe to say there are more than 4 locations of Panaque Armbrusteri. Check this link out and prepare yourself http://silurus.acnatsci.org/ACSI/field/Pipe_Expedition/Loricariidae.html
Have a read about the full expedition, it is amazing. Also look at the location map and collection points. It shows how vast an area they are dealing with, As for human exploaration of the underwater parts of the Amazon....we have barely dipped our toes in the order.
Have a read about the full expedition, it is amazing. Also look at the location map and collection points. It shows how vast an area they are dealing with, As for human exploaration of the underwater parts of the Amazon....we have barely dipped our toes in the order.
Matt I agree with saying there could be more than 4 varieties.
The ones I have are all showing different patterns and even base cflour. The one timy shows here looks like a few of mine. The last thread he posted looks like a few others. Yours from the first thread you showed it in I was sure it's not a xingu like some said. It looks like a few of mine. One thing that stands out most to me is the x on it's head. I'd say half of mine have it. The other halfjust have odd looking lines on the head.
IMO easiest to tell apart even when juvie is the xingu.
I think most people being told they have xingus are in possession of a totally different type.
The closet thing I can say mine look like are two pics posted by nks stating the fish are thunder panaque. Yours and timys look similar as well.
The ones I have are all showing different patterns and even base cflour. The one timy shows here looks like a few of mine. The last thread he posted looks like a few others. Yours from the first thread you showed it in I was sure it's not a xingu like some said. It looks like a few of mine. One thing that stands out most to me is the x on it's head. I'd say half of mine have it. The other halfjust have odd looking lines on the head.
IMO easiest to tell apart even when juvie is the xingu.
I think most people being told they have xingus are in possession of a totally different type.
The closet thing I can say mine look like are two pics posted by nks stating the fish are thunder panaque. Yours and timys look similar as well.
Thats a great link to explore, thanks Alan. Something new to me after reading some, is that the areas they were collecting were the headwaters of the Xingu, Tapajos, Araguaia, so presumably these rivers are connected at least in some way. And then the Araguaia joins the Tocantins near Maraba (I think).
I've emailed Nathan Lujan, one of the guys who described P. armbrusteri and was on that PIPE expedition, to see if he can help a little.
At the time I was a bit relieved you didn't get the 5 you expected, I wasn't much looking forward to the bill :whistle: But now I wouldn't have minded so much.
I hope that crops up in the magazine then. I've not heard anyone mention the Iriri with them before.
Check out this link. I didn't bother translating but it has some nice pics of thunders/goldline thunders.
http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/stephen-chow/article?mid=26&
http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/stephen-chow/article?mid=26&
