abn lf half fin is red ?

[foti]

hello im growing up some longfins and i have noticed 1 one them has a red fin well really half a red fin ?
my first thort was "its dead" but if it was how and why is it red?
2nd thort "amonia" but the rest of them are fine and there is enough filtration not including weekly water changes

what could it be ?

many thanks
Foti

 

[JoePlec]

hello im growing up some longfins and i have noticed 1 one them has a red fin well really half a red fin ?
my first thort was "its dead" but if it was how and why is it red?
2nd thort "amonia" but the rest of them are fine and there is enough filtration not including weekly water changes

what could it be ?

many thanks
Foti

Ive had broken fins before mate. Any pics?

 

[Irene0100]

they can very easily damage fins, guess the red may been infection has set in? do you have QT tank? lots of good water changes may be best action but have some melafix on hand if it gets worse or fish goes lethargic or stops eating.

 

[foti]

ill qt the fish tonight and then take pics to post he seems fine just has a red fin well half fin

thank you guys for looking and helping

 

[foti]

this is the bn iv been talking about !

i have to be honest i dont look in this tank at all just do weekly wc and filter clean !
so i cant tell you how long its been like that for!

 

[JoePlec]

Some bad pictures there haha.. Looks like maybe they have been fighting. Id put it in its own tank and do regular water changes. Whats the size of the tank and how many fish are in it and what size are the fish in it.

 

[Mooo]

Yeah I agree it must have had a tussle with another one..Bit odd that it is on the tip of two fins tho, is there anything in there it could have gotten caught in?
Use Melafix daily and do wc every second day...ending treatment when it looks to be healing...a week should do the trick...Good Luck..

 

[foti]

okay
i had to zoom to get picsit was out the back of tank
tank is a 2.5x2x2.5 it is stocked with about 80 bn fry @ 2-2.5cms and and 3 male bn @ 7cms

i know its crouded but until my other tanks are set up they will have to do!

i would say 100% its not fighting as it starts at the exact same spot on both sides !
and not it hasnt hit its self on any thing


this redness has just uppeered out of no where il treat it but the thing is its inside the fin almost like it is its colour of its skin?

 

[JoePlec]

okay
i had to zoom to get picsit was out the back of tank
tank is a 2.5x2x2.5 it is stocked with about 80 bn fry @ 2-2.5cms and and 3 male bn @ 7cms

i know its crouded but until my other tanks are set up they will have to do!

i would say 100% its not fighting as it starts at the exact same spot on both sides !
and not it hasnt hit its self on any thing


this redness has just uppeered out of no where il treat it but the thing is its inside the fin almost like it is its colour of its skin?

Sounds like males fighting to me.

 

[lcrazy]

Oxygin deprevation 4sure, big cause of blood blisters in L/F

 

[foti]

Oxygin deprevation 4sure, big cause of blood blisters in L/F

i would say this sounds more likely

but :dk:

im running 2x lrg sponge filfers and a powerhead that is above water level making waves crashing air into water?

but im guessing it could of happend during the time the air line bent and caused the both air filters to slow down to the point that some times 1 wouldnt work took me a week to figure out :cry: i cleaned the filters everyday rasied them in high spots cut the line thinking it wasn.t even by dumb luck i notice at the comppresser that 1 of its outlets had bent

will this heal on its own ?

and as much as i hate useing meds i will as iv bought them already i would much rather not use them so

should i treat it with meds or alow it to heal naturaly ?

 

[Mooo]

Ahh awesome to find that out...You live n learn.. I love this site :clap:
So some air stones added and some Pimafix for a few days n it should be ok...Keep us posted ...

 

[foti]

moo you suggest meds is a must?

 

[Big-B]

If you dont want to use meds, then large, frequent water-changes should help him heal quickly. :yes:

 

[lcrazy]

Its only oxygin Dep that caused the redness, no need to treat with chemicals, up the air, I guarentee if there is enough dissolved oxygin in your water he will be fine within a day or 2.
Water change the best.

 

[Rabbit]

You'll find the same thing in most of my Lf photos, once a water change was done it would reduce back to normal, i put it down to the possibility of either Nitrite or ammonia suffocating the dramatic extension's where it would obviously be hard to get blood and oxygen too.
Never effected them, males would cave and fan as per normal.

 

[dw1305]

Hi all,
Red fins, swollen or brown gills and red/brown fin streaks are often a result of both elevated levels of nitrite, and the elevated ammonia levels that preceded it. As a general rule aeration and oxygenation become much more important as the bioload grows (particularly in "grow out" tanks where fish are getting bigger and the bio-load growing all the time).

If there isn't sufficient oxygen reaching the biological filter to complete the ammonia - nitrite - nitrate cycle for the volume of fish, ammonia and nitrite remain in the in the water.

As this waste product rich water is drawn across the gill surfaces the ammonia produced by the fish cannot diffuse from them, and nitrite occupies the sites on the blood's haemoglobin molecule that would ordinarily be transporting oxygen.

Amquel or Prime will bind with nitrite and ammonia, but will also utilise some of the oxygen on their own. More water changes are a good idea, as are some growing plants, but you need a filtration system that can deal with a higher bio-load. Trickle filters are very efficient at achieving increased aeration because of their thin film of water exposed to atmospheric oxygen,

There are some more details here: <http://plecoplanet.com/?page_id=829>

cheers Darrel

 

[VickiandKev]

red fins like that are indicative of a bacterial infection. Oxygen deprivation would also show red gills and lethargy. I would personally treat with salt first off (0.25g/L) if that doesn't work I would treat with esha2000 as this clears most bacterial infection. Of course on the other hand it could be fin damage and therefore the redness could be haemorrhage. If that's the case there really isn't anything you can do, it will heal on its own and the meds (esha2000) will prevent any infection.

Keep us updated...

 

[zeebo]

good info, eveyone , will store that in my brain should I need to refer to it .
Hope your longfin mends . Will keep watching for new info from you on him.

I drop my water level a bit and have 2 hob's plus 2 aqua-sponge filters, BUT I also have 2 8'' air stones going, and wonder if the air stones do much good to add oxygen ? They really crank and there is alot of movement on surface. Are bubble stones really necessary for oxygen ? Seems like there would be enough without them, but I added them just to be on safe side. :dk:

Georgie