are the dots in seachem free amonia test kit toxic
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Hello Georgie,
Looking at the product sheet, it looks like the yello dot does contain chemicals as stated http://www.seachem.com/Library/Instructions/0950-AmmoniaWE-4.0.pdf
there is also a warning for kids.
I am not sure what happened or if you dropped on into the tank and a fish ate it ? But if it was a child I would be off to the docs. If you just dropped it in the water, I would say it would be fine, but maybe do a water change and suck the area where the tablet dropped. cheers jk :thumbup:
Looking at the product sheet, it looks like the yello dot does contain chemicals as stated http://www.seachem.com/Library/Instructions/0950-AmmoniaWE-4.0.pdf
there is also a warning for kids.
I am not sure what happened or if you dropped on into the tank and a fish ate it ? But if it was a child I would be off to the docs. If you just dropped it in the water, I would say it would be fine, but maybe do a water change and suck the area where the tablet dropped. cheers jk :thumbup:
hi BB, not sure where it is ,but not in the tank , but possibly in the bottle of Prime. I am missing a dot and had the prime open, multitasking and just not sure but coulda popped in there, cant see it inside , could have fallen behind somehing ..just dont know ,but def not the tank. Will have to pour the prime out into another container to see, peace of mind ,ya know. Thanks for the info. i suppose if it is in the prime bottle, it will have contaminated the prime and will have to toss it out :wb: will do it tomorrow, too beat today .
Georgie
Georgie
right on, well thank goodness not in the Prime bottle , couldnt wait , atm i'm a walking zombie ,been up all night and day, insomnia... so i poured the prime through a fine strainer into a clear container and no show. so perhaps it fell into the fireplace,i was working on the mantel , so check around tomorrow, to sqirley now. Guess this kinda stuff happens when overtired and messing with the tanks
Many thanks BB. I am sure i have the paperwrok for free amonia test kit but must be around :dk: but cant find it atm.
Georgie
Many thanks BB. I am sure i have the paperwrok for free amonia test kit but must be around :dk: but cant find it atm.
Georgie
Hi all,
I'm not familiar with the test kit, but I'm pretty sure it will be all right and you don't need to worry about where it has ended up. The test kits look like they use the same technology as Seachem use for their "Ammonia Alert": <http://www.seachem.com/Products/product_pages/AmmoniaAlert.html>, which is permanently in the tank.
There are apparently 3 types of reagent tests for NH3/NH4+ (and an ion selective electrode).
The 2 that I'm familiar with are Nessler’s Reagent (goes yellow with ammonia and is mercury based) and salicylate-hypochlorite tests (which go blue with ammonia). These work in a similar way in that they raise the pH to pH12 or above, which means that all the NH3/NH4+ ammonia/um is in the NH3 form. This includes any NH3 that has been complexed by Prime or Amquel into aminomethanesulfonate. Another disadvantage with the salicylate tests is that they combine the ammonia with chlorine, meaning that you can have NH3 present, but not showing due to the Cl- ions being mopped up by a sodium thiosulphate de-chlorinator.
Apparently Seachem’s Ammonia Alert™ and MultiTest:™ Free & Total Ammonia are "hydrophobic sensors". These are new on me, but I think this refers to this patent "Hydrophobic fluorescent polymer membrane for the detection of ammonia" <http://www.patentgenius.com/patent/6107099.html>
and this is the technology Seachem are using, including for "Ammonia Alert" <http://www.seachem.com/Products/product_pages/AmmoniaAlert.html>.
I then found this patent <http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2003/0113932.html>, which includes "[0089]........ A second sensing membrane was a commercially available sensing membrane from SEACHEM. The SEACHEM membrane was made from a polypropylene hydrophobic membrane material. The SEACHEM sensing membranes are typically used in aquarium applications. "
Looks like its primary use is in medicine for advance warning of liver or kidney problems (if your liver/kidney don't work properly ammonia levels will rise, as the NH3 won't be converted to the much less toxic urea or the urea excreted), so it should be quite accurate as a test.
cheers Darrel
I'm not familiar with the test kit, but I'm pretty sure it will be all right and you don't need to worry about where it has ended up. The test kits look like they use the same technology as Seachem use for their "Ammonia Alert": <http://www.seachem.com/Products/product_pages/AmmoniaAlert.html>, which is permanently in the tank.
There are apparently 3 types of reagent tests for NH3/NH4+ (and an ion selective electrode).
The 2 that I'm familiar with are Nessler’s Reagent (goes yellow with ammonia and is mercury based) and salicylate-hypochlorite tests (which go blue with ammonia). These work in a similar way in that they raise the pH to pH12 or above, which means that all the NH3/NH4+ ammonia/um is in the NH3 form. This includes any NH3 that has been complexed by Prime or Amquel into aminomethanesulfonate. Another disadvantage with the salicylate tests is that they combine the ammonia with chlorine, meaning that you can have NH3 present, but not showing due to the Cl- ions being mopped up by a sodium thiosulphate de-chlorinator.
Apparently Seachem’s Ammonia Alert™ and MultiTest:™ Free & Total Ammonia are "hydrophobic sensors". These are new on me, but I think this refers to this patent "Hydrophobic fluorescent polymer membrane for the detection of ammonia" <http://www.patentgenius.com/patent/6107099.html>
and this is the technology Seachem are using, including for "Ammonia Alert" <http://www.seachem.com/Products/product_pages/AmmoniaAlert.html>.
I then found this patent <http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2003/0113932.html>, which includes "[0089]........ A second sensing membrane was a commercially available sensing membrane from SEACHEM. The SEACHEM membrane was made from a polypropylene hydrophobic membrane material. The SEACHEM sensing membranes are typically used in aquarium applications. "
Looks like its primary use is in medicine for advance warning of liver or kidney problems (if your liver/kidney don't work properly ammonia levels will rise, as the NH3 won't be converted to the much less toxic urea or the urea excreted), so it should be quite accurate as a test.
cheers Darrel
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wow D-MAC ! appreciate the research, seems i'm too tired atm to make sense of it ,so will come back to it tomorrow to re-read. and yes i have seen the wheels for sale for ph alert . ok ,i better crash and try to make sense of this tomorrow.
thanks,
georgie
thanks,
georgie
sorry dw. i was awake for 2 days and credited your research to someone else, thanks for the info , appreciate the research esp because i did a wc and used the prime before i knew the dot was missing. As i mentioned earlier, it was not in the prime ,but until i knew for sure ,i was freaked.
Georgie