Are these L129?

[sjones_1]

Hi all. I've been away from the forum for quite some time.

I was wondering if anyone could tell me if these are L129's? If not what do you think they are?

Thanks,
Sam

 

[dw1305]

Hi all,
With the normal disclaimer that I am very poor at this, I think the snout looks too long for H. deblittera (L129) or L340. They look more like H. furunculus L199, with those big eyes, set well back on the head.

Have a look here:"Identification of Hypancistrus" Written by Jon Tarn(cup) and Yann Fulliquet - <http://plecoplanet.com/?page_id=571>.

cheers Darrel

 

[Jacqueline]

The fish are 100% L340.

 

[sjones_1]

Thank you both! I thought they weren't L129's but that is what the shop ordered them in as.

L340 seems to be a very similar Plec in terms of requirments and size so I may still go for them.

What would be a good price for these L340's at around 2"? and out of interest would they be the same price if they were L129's?

Thanks,
Sam

 

[dw1305]

Hi all,
If Jacqueline is sure they are L340, that is good enough for me.

I'd be happy with L340, they normally sell for a little bit more than L129, and are otherwise very similar in size, behaviour etc. There is some suggestion that L129/L340 may be colour forms of the same species.

The orange coloured fish are usually labelled as L340 (have a look in the Back to Nature guide to L numbers.) if you have a copy.

cheers Darrel

 

[bigbird]

yup agree with Jacqueline

cheers jk :thumbup:

 

[Jo Crane]

I am inclined to say that if they are all like the one shown in the photo on its own then they may be L340, we have both L340 & L129 in stock they are alike but clearly not the same when sat in tanks next to one another our retail price on these is £15 each
Here is a link to our L340's https://www.rareaquatics.co.uk/shop/article_141/L340-Hypancistrus-Mega-Clown-Pleco.html?sessid=BQbeS2vrbyWmE3myNxihnTiEwfcTB4xgQjW9dW7P3kwl2Pbf0MQeUaT1Yk4XvfGc&shop_param=cid=80&aid=141&

 

[sjones_1]

Thanks everyone.

Jo, I've already been on and checked your stock. I believe it was the first place I checked. What confused me was these show quite different marking to the one shown on the L340 page of your website. What size are the one's you have for sale?

Sam

 

[Jo Crane]

We have approx 30 left in stock varying sizes all around 2" some over some just at

 

[sjones_1]

Thanks everyone.

I got to see these in the flesh this weekend and they are a lot more yellow than the pics above make them look. I came home with three and got these quick snaps whilst they were acclimatising. I didn't want to stress them out as they'd been in the bag for 3 hours and so I wanted to get them in the tank as soon as possible.

I know the pics are terrible but do they affirm the i.d of L340 or cast doubt?

I will get better pics once they have settled in.

Sam

 

[sjones_1]

Tried to get some better pics but the camera was dead. So Hopefully some better pics (with my phone)

Sam

 

[basicsimple]

Hi everyone,

I am new to plecos and I browse thru pleco planet article about l129. I feel very confused for pleco ID. Why the above is 340? How to differentiate and what is the differences with l270? For a newbie like me, it feels like l270...and I am confused now....my house got 5pcs of l129 and I feel they are different than above photo.

Regards,
John

 

[bigbird]

i am sorry, but they need to be in focus. The best is shots from above and the side. Hypans at best are hard to tell apart, so if possible better shots. Sorry cheers jk :thumbup:

 

[Jacqueline]

Pictures are bad indeed....

But if looking at distance from eyes to snout I would say L340 again. But a better picture will be better.

 

[sjones_1]

I agree, the pictures were terrible. It was the best I could do with what I had. I did a big clean today and when all the ornaments were out I tried to grab some better pics with my camera rather than my phone.

Here they are;

From above:

Hopefully at least one of them is good enough!

All of them seem to have the start of odontodes on their pectorals, does this mean they are all male!?


Sam

 

[Jacqueline]

Yes, for sure now. They are L340

When not in breeding condition it can be quite hard to identify the females from the batch. Just wait until they get gravid, then it's obvious :yes:

Nice fish, good luck!!

 

[sjones_1]

Thank you Jaqueline!

Could you help me understand why the are L340 and not L129 or some other L number?

Sam

 

[Jacqueline]

For me, long headshape and (lines round the) eyes stand out. Typical for L340.
If you want a more scientific explanation, you can tell by the number of teeth what they are.
L129 has a less pronounced "E" on it's snout. Also coloration is nicer on L340, L129 get very dull when older, they lose their stripes and color a lot.