Cambarellus patzcuarensis sp
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Hello,
All in German however they are readily available in Germany
http://crusta.de/krebse/cambarellus-patzcuarensis-va-orange_372
http://www.wirbellose.de/arten.cgi?action=show&artNo=144
they even have a web page just for them and it shows them for sale and readily available
http://www.cambarellus.com/Zwergflusskrebse/Cambarellus-Stocklist.htm
They are stunners though. cheers jan-kurt
All in German however they are readily available in Germany
http://crusta.de/krebse/cambarellus-patzcuarensis-va-orange_372
http://www.wirbellose.de/arten.cgi?action=show&artNo=144
they even have a web page just for them and it shows them for sale and readily available
http://www.cambarellus.com/Zwergflusskrebse/Cambarellus-Stocklist.htm
They are stunners though. cheers jan-kurt
Hi all,
Just to give you a heads-up, but I'm pretty sure that it is illegal to sell these in the UK.
cheers Darrel
Just to give you a heads-up, but I'm pretty sure that it is illegal to sell these in the UK.
<http://www.defra.gov.uk/foodfarm/fisheries/freshwater/crayfish.htm#PET>
cheers Darrel
Hi all,
I've had a look and the law is pretty proscriptive, it covers keeping as well as sale and you can only legally keep Cherax quadricarinatus in the UK.
cheers Darrel
I've had a look and the law is pretty proscriptive, it covers keeping as well as sale and you can only legally keep Cherax quadricarinatus in the UK.
cheers Darrel
Hello,
OK Cost per shrimp is EUR 6, as per this web page http://www.1a-wirbellose.de/wirbellose_krebse.php
good luck. cheers jk:thumbup:
OK Cost per shrimp is EUR 6, as per this web page http://www.1a-wirbellose.de/wirbellose_krebse.php
good luck. cheers jk:thumbup:
Hi all,
I don't think the license will be easy to obtain, it is because of the endangered nature of our European White Clawed Crayfish (following the escape and naturalisation of the American Signal Crayfish.)
I'm pretty sure that someone from "Natural England" will come and remove them from you for "humane disposal" if they know you have them.
cheers Darrel
Details from: <http://www.defra.gov.uk/foodfarm/fisheries/freshwater/crayfish.htm#PET>
"There is a general presumption against the issue of keeping licences or licences for the release of non-native crayfish. Applications are usually only considered in respect of keeping in secure sites for scientific research, or for aquaculture, where the crayfish are to be held in secure indoor facilities and sold direct to the food market You will need to obtain a licence prior to the introduction of non-native crayfish for applications in England for the keeping of crayfish you will need to apply on form CRAY2, if you wish to release crayfish into the wild then you must apply for a licence on form ILFA1 direct to CEFAS. .....
Licences are free of charge and will be issued by CEFAS following a full consultation process with the Fish Health Inspectorate - who may undertake an inspection of the facilities in which the crayfish are to be kept - the Environment Agency and English Nature. The issue of licences usually takes about a month following receipt of an application. There may be conditions placed on the licence and a licence may be time limited.
Offences and penalties
Under the Crayfish Order an offence will have been committed if a person:
* keeps any non-native crayfish without being in possession of a valid licence;
* fails to meet any conditions (specific or general) placed on that licence, including supplying listed species to a third party who is not in possession of an appropriate licence.
Failure to comply with licence conditions may result in licences being revoked and possible prosecution. Maximum penalties of up to £2500 can be enforced in cases of non-compliance with the legislation depending on circumstances, illegally held crayfish will be seized and destroyed.
Under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 a person guilty of an offence shall be liable:
* On summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding statutory maximum;
* On conviction on indictment, to a fine.
."
I don't think the license will be easy to obtain, it is because of the endangered nature of our European White Clawed Crayfish (following the escape and naturalisation of the American Signal Crayfish.)
I'm pretty sure that someone from "Natural England" will come and remove them from you for "humane disposal" if they know you have them.
cheers Darrel
Details from: <http://www.defra.gov.uk/foodfarm/fisheries/freshwater/crayfish.htm#PET>
"There is a general presumption against the issue of keeping licences or licences for the release of non-native crayfish. Applications are usually only considered in respect of keeping in secure sites for scientific research, or for aquaculture, where the crayfish are to be held in secure indoor facilities and sold direct to the food market You will need to obtain a licence prior to the introduction of non-native crayfish for applications in England for the keeping of crayfish you will need to apply on form CRAY2, if you wish to release crayfish into the wild then you must apply for a licence on form ILFA1 direct to CEFAS. .....
Licences are free of charge and will be issued by CEFAS following a full consultation process with the Fish Health Inspectorate - who may undertake an inspection of the facilities in which the crayfish are to be kept - the Environment Agency and English Nature. The issue of licences usually takes about a month following receipt of an application. There may be conditions placed on the licence and a licence may be time limited.
Offences and penalties
Under the Crayfish Order an offence will have been committed if a person:
* keeps any non-native crayfish without being in possession of a valid licence;
* fails to meet any conditions (specific or general) placed on that licence, including supplying listed species to a third party who is not in possession of an appropriate licence.
Failure to comply with licence conditions may result in licences being revoked and possible prosecution. Maximum penalties of up to £2500 can be enforced in cases of non-compliance with the legislation depending on circumstances, illegally held crayfish will be seized and destroyed.
Under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 a person guilty of an offence shall be liable:
* On summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding statutory maximum;
* On conviction on indictment, to a fine.
."
Hi all,
I understand why there is a prohibition on keeping most crayfish in the UK, but I should think the chance of the orange morph of Cambarellus patzcuarensis becoming naturalised in the UK is less than nil, it is just a "belt and braces" approach.
It isn't much of a problem for us in the UK, but the same sorts of laws are the reason why New Zealand, Hawaii and Australian members can keep a much more limited range of stuff. You only have to look at those countries for the damage that the imported, Rabbit, Carp, Frog, Deer etc ."wrong animal in the wrong place" can cause.
cheers Darrel
I understand why there is a prohibition on keeping most crayfish in the UK, but I should think the chance of the orange morph of Cambarellus patzcuarensis becoming naturalised in the UK is less than nil, it is just a "belt and braces" approach.
It isn't much of a problem for us in the UK, but the same sorts of laws are the reason why New Zealand, Hawaii and Australian members can keep a much more limited range of stuff. You only have to look at those countries for the damage that the imported, Rabbit, Carp, Frog, Deer etc ."wrong animal in the wrong place" can cause.
cheers Darrel