Carp bait

Jason20679

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Hi,

I was a keen fisherman till circumstances stopped me from carrying on.
Would the crushed boillies and pellets i used as bait be good to use as food for plecs? Especially for L201s and L030s
I know some are high in protein but wouldn't that be good to help with spawning?

Prob a stupid question but i thought no harm in asking lol

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Lornek8

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Baits are typically designed to attract & catch fish, not to maintain them. The ingredients used are probably questionable at best. I wouldn't risk feeding my fish that stuff when there are so many commonly avaialable foods.
 

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Baits are typically designed to attract & catch fish, not to maintain them. The ingredients used are probably questionable at best. I wouldn't risk feeding my fish that stuff when there are so many commonly avaialable foods.
Totally agree
 

Jason20679

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Baits are typically designed to attract & catch fish, not to maintain them. The ingredients used are probably questionable at best. I wouldn't risk feeding my fish that stuff when there are so many commonly avaialable foods.
Cool. Thought it might be daft question. I'd at work driving my bus and my head wanders off and i think of allsorts

Lol

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L777

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Baits are typically designed to attract & catch fish, not to maintain them. The ingredients used are probably questionable at best. I wouldn't risk feeding my fish that stuff when there are so many commonly avaialable foods.
Hi,

I'm a lifelong fisherman (40+ actual fishing years) and I'm sorry but I don't agree with that statement at all. As an angler it sounds to me like a statement that only the seriously uninitiated would make.

Fishing is largely different here in the UK than it is in other parts of the world where fish are caught primarily for food, in that scenario the bait only needs to attract and catch the fish. But here in the UK and for the types of bait that the OP refers to a catch and release policy is enforce. Carp are the main quarry now days and can take over 20 years to reach the type of proportions commonly sought after by anglers therby having an inherent value placed upon them by both the fishery owners and the fishing industry as a whole.

To even suggest that this food is anything other than nutritionally valuable to the coarse fish that we both seek and admire is insulting. Angling is the largest participant sport in the UK and a multimillion £ industry. Some 4 million rod licenses are sold every year in a country with a 60 million or so population. That equates to roughly 1 in 15 people actively participating. That's a serious amount of food going into our lakes, rivers and canals. Because for every piece that goes on a hook commonly hundreds are fed for attraction and to get the fish to recognize the 'bait' as food.

However considering the OP's question being "is this food suitable for Plec's" then IMO I'd steer clear of it. Its been designed specifically for UK coarse fish i.e. cyprinades, members of the carp family, who can handle a lot more protein in there diet than is good for Plec's. So in essence the OP answered his own question.

Chris.
 

FF MkII

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Good post but I'm intrigued in to what goes into these boilies to give them some of the crazy flavours and are these additives ok (long term) for the fish they are meant to attract?
 

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I work for a bait company and we use top quality ingredients which are also used to make things that we all consume every day. Most of the fish food we use like algea wafers, flake and catfish pellets etc contain these. But you have to remember that these baits have been designed and tested for carp, barbel etc. and not tropical fish.
 
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L777

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Good post but I'm intrigued in to what goes into these boilies to give them some of the crazy flavours and are these additives ok (long term) for the fish they are meant to attract?

Hi,

Everything has been tested to the enth degree and is totally fish safe in both the short and long term. Ingredients commonly used include fish, meat and bone meals of various types, grades and origins. Milk protein normally of a very high quality and suitable for human consumption. Ground nuts, seeds and pulses. Bulking agents like semolina. Flavours usually the same as the ones used in the confectionary industry but not always. Palatants, vitamins, minerals, and specific ammino acid compouds to aid digestability.

To be honest the list of bait ingredients is as long as your arm and the different mixtures that can be put together is only limited by imagination. Much the same as cooking in our own homes for ourselves. Certain combinations will be nice and others not so good.

You have to remember how highly sought after the very biggest of the fish are and the esteem with which they are held throughout angling. Not so long ago one of these fish passed on and the anglers who were fishing there actually held a funeral for the fish and spread rose petals across the lakes surface. It made national TV. The fish was affectionately called 'Heather the Leather' and resided in the Yately car park lake and had done so for about 30 years gracing the net of many a lucky angler. I know its the Sun but check out this story and the value that was placed on the fish.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3001984/Anglers-tears-as-Heather-the-carp-dies.html

Nearly every lake canal and river in the land holds its own similarly prized specimen/s. Not of the same proportions granted but prized by those that fish there non the less. No quarry to go for means no fisherman. Which is exactly why the industry as a whole takes fish nutrition so seriously.

Chris.
 
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Jason20679

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I think that next time i have a daft idea I'll keep it to myself. I didn't mean to start an argument.
Can we drop it now please?

Sorry

Thanks

J
 

FF MkII

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Firstly it's not a daft idea, you had a thought and it was explained (very well I may add) that they are not suitable for tropical, those that didn't know have learnt something so it was great that you asked. Secondly there is no argument....it's all love and peace here :lol:
 

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Does that make me bad for feeding a pardalis green lipped muscle pellets for 6 months before passing it on. In 6 months grew and filled out quick enough to move all the rocks and wood in my tank with ease as well as breaking the strip light in my tank by hitting it with enough force.

That stuff is like fish steroids.

I don't feed it now but plecs can't get enough of it.
 

L777

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Wow thanks for that Jess I've used green lipped mussel in bait many times and know first hand just how good it is but am looking forward to trying it with my plec's now. It never really occurred to my before but now you've suggested it it seems so obvious.

Chris.
 

jessonthenet

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I don't mind sharing experiences but if anything bad happens to your plecs like growing an extra head or something not getting the blame lol.

Yeah good stuff available in large quantities cheap on ebay.