Filters - I ask Can one have too much Filter Power ?

bigbird

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Hello,

I am aware that the Ls love clean and clear water. I have my rack with the 3ft tanks . In the tank with my 6 x L004 I have an Eheim 2213 and a powerhead. I am thinking of adding and Eheim 2217, in order to make the water clearer and cleaner. However I do ask myself, is there a point when there is too much water being turned over or does it have any negative effect ? Any thoughts out there ? cheers jk :thumbup:
 

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I run multiple filters on my tanks and the only thing that i have been warned about is in relation to the beneficial bacteria build up and whether or not there is going to be enough waster or whatever in the tank to feed all the filters bacterias.

My thoughts however are that either way no matter how many filters you run you will still accumulate a certain amount of beneficial bacteria build up whether it be spread over 1,2 or 3 filters however you also have the added benefit of whatever extra you run in the canister whether it be something to buffer ph or carbon and water clarity items such as purigen.
 

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Can't have too much filtration. The amount of beneficial bacteria will only grow to the amount of waste produced. You can have too much flow though. This would e the result of simply adding additional filters. It would be possible to get to the point where fish are battered around and food simply get sucked into filters. I have run a tank with even more flow then you are proposing however and it really didnt appear to be very much.
 

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Hi all,
I run multiple filters on my tanks and the only thing that i have been warned about is in relation to the beneficial bacteria build up and whether or not there is going to be enough waster or whatever in the tank to feed all the filters bacterias.
I think you can ignore the worry about the filter bacteria not getting enough to eat, or being unable to get at the ammonia/ammonium ions as they are whipped past them by the flow.

I agree with Lorne(K), in a canister filter set-up more flow speed means more oxygen, and more oxygen in the water means more potential for biological filtration.

Canister set-ups need to be very highly over-filtered because of the oxygen issue. If you have a wet and dry trickle filter, you can achieve highly oxygenated water with very little water turn-over.

cheers Darrel
 

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A 2213 is only 3ltrs. I just ordered one for a 50cm tank lol.
You will be impressed with the power of a 2217 and if its too fast, they do have adjustable taps. :)
I myself on a 3ft (unless its a good 2ft high and deep) would just use a 2215 on it. My whippies and L333 love their 2215 as do some zebs in another 3ft standard.
 
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bigbird

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:clap: thanks all for your inputs and thoughts. I do have the 2215 and already have some 2217. Am looking forward to the 2 new 2217 as well. Will look at my options . cheers jk :thumbup:
 
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I like running 3+ filters on my tanks that are 60 gal +

You guys should try the classic 2262. It's so amazing. The things so big it doesn't fit under my stand it's off to the side of it lol. The filter does wonders it's truly a beast. I'm thinking about buying another one this year.
 

bigbird

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thanks. I have the ehiam diffusers running in the tanks. Maybe just have to adjust the flow of the two filters to make it better. cheers jk :thumbup: