Woke up this morning, checked on my l134's as usual (hoping they may have eggs, lol) to find 1 of my gravid females dead (well i think she was gravid but i'm no expert) Her eyes looked like they was about to pop out of her head and she had a pea sized lump on her genitail area. Any ideas what this could of been? There was no signs of illness before she died, water tests are all fine, and the others all look healthy. Hope it was a 1 off and the others are not going to start dropping dead :cry:
Gutted, 1 of my l134's died, any ideas why?
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I am certainly no expert, but my brother had a BN with similar symptoms and it turned out she was egg bound, could this also be the case with yours!!
she was getting larger and larger, so maybe it was that. Was hoping I'd have a trapping soon but unfortunatly got a dead pleco instead :cry: Least if it was that the others will be fine.
In the past I've lost an L260 female due to being eggbound :cry: so it can certainly happen. Sorry you lost her, hopefully its just a one off and the rest will be fine, but I would keep a check on your parameters for a week or so.
wow sorry for your loss. agree with the others, might be egg bound. I would still monitor the others over the next 7days etc. hope all goes well with the others. cheers jk :thumbup:
Thanks everyone. Yes I will definatly be keeping a close eye (I love my leopard frogs), I added a little extra prime when I did did my water change today just incase. She was the only female that looked gravid, hopfully in time the other females will learn what to do lol, but my hopes of them breeding seem to be going at the mo. Seems a little sad been so upset over a pleco but I had high hopes for her been my 1st pleco mum.
Hi all,
Another possibility is diet related, and it might be worth feeding some green peas, earth worms or "shell on" shrimps, if you normally only feed pellets?
I would be tempted to up both aeration and your water change volume as an insurance, just in case it is a water quality issue.
cheers Darrel
Might have been egg bound, but these symptoms could also be an internal bacterial infection and these are often the result of a loss in water quality. Tap water can contain a lot of nitrates at this time of year, and there is always the chance that water mains work will lead to the water company upping the disinfection with chloramine.
Another possibility is diet related, and it might be worth feeding some green peas, earth worms or "shell on" shrimps, if you normally only feed pellets?
I would be tempted to up both aeration and your water change volume as an insurance, just in case it is a water quality issue.
cheers Darrel
thanks for info Darrel, we had our water turned off last week for a whole night while they did some works, not sure what they was doing, hope that they haven't added more of anything. All my other fish and tanks are fine so not sure if that could be the cause. I change 20% of the water every couple of days. Do you think i should do it daily if nitrates are high this time of year?
They eat better than me lol, they have homegrown courgettes, cucumber, peas once a week(is that enough? or should I give them it a couple of times a week) frozen fish foods-bloodworm-lobster eggs-artema ect ect, bloodworm mussel and earthworm pellets, new era pleco pellets, tetra prima, prawns, mussels, tetra tablets, hikari algae wafers, jmc catfish pellets and tetra multi wafers. I've got some little shrimps with shells on but they don't seem to eat them. Think thats everything, I just rotate and try and give them something different everyday. Is everything I feed them ok?
They eat better than me lol, they have homegrown courgettes, cucumber, peas once a week(is that enough? or should I give them it a couple of times a week) frozen fish foods-bloodworm-lobster eggs-artema ect ect, bloodworm mussel and earthworm pellets, new era pleco pellets, tetra prima, prawns, mussels, tetra tablets, hikari algae wafers, jmc catfish pellets and tetra multi wafers. I've got some little shrimps with shells on but they don't seem to eat them. Think thats everything, I just rotate and try and give them something different everyday. Is everything I feed them ok?
Hi all,
Warm water, Rheophilic Plecs like Peckoltia and Hypancistrus are likely to be damaged by low oxygen levels, which could result from either the increased oxygen consumption of the filter bacteria (the conversion of NH3 to NO3 uses a lot of oxygen) or by the water in the filter becoming de-oxygenated and some of the filter bacteria dying.
Try your water company they should be able to supply nitrate levels for your water and also tell you if chloramine is being used in your supply.
Do you have an alternative water supply you could use for a while? I use rain-water, but RO from a shop might be an option. This is why a lot of people have put in RO/HMA filters after we had an absolute spate of fish deaths during the water works after the big freeze of 2010/11.
cheers Darrel
The food sounds really good, I think I'll come and eat at yours as well.
I had a feeling you were going to say something like that, that makes poisoning by chloramine a much more likely proposition, to the extent of being almost certainly the cause.
Warm water, Rheophilic Plecs like Peckoltia and Hypancistrus are likely to be damaged by low oxygen levels, which could result from either the increased oxygen consumption of the filter bacteria (the conversion of NH3 to NO3 uses a lot of oxygen) or by the water in the filter becoming de-oxygenated and some of the filter bacteria dying.
Depends really, if you don't have any plants even with the water changes the nitrate levels will still climb, as you can't remove NO3 other than by active uptake by plants or dilution. If you have anaerobic zones in the substrate some of the nitrate will de-gas to N2 gas, but this is likely to lead to other problems, and isn't really a viable route for us.
Try your water company they should be able to supply nitrate levels for your water and also tell you if chloramine is being used in your supply.
Do you have an alternative water supply you could use for a while? I use rain-water, but RO from a shop might be an option. This is why a lot of people have put in RO/HMA filters after we had an absolute spate of fish deaths during the water works after the big freeze of 2010/11.
cheers Darrel
what a shame, sorry you lost her.
i agree with above comments, could be egg bound but just a slikely to be infection or tumour.
either way water qual is vital, so worth investigating more and see if can get something better than tap water.
i agree with above comments, could be egg bound but just a slikely to be infection or tumour.
either way water qual is vital, so worth investigating more and see if can get something better than tap water.