Info needed to clarify l no. Id of peppermint bristlenose

[foti]

I have been trying to determine the l no. Of my pepp also i would like to know the different l no. pepp’s available in Australia !
Thank you

 

[macvsog23]

Hi

With over 100 fish being called Peppermint some thing I think a photo may help us?

L Numbers for Peppermint B/n,s range from L180 L183 L201 L103 L181 L182 ect

Regards Bob

 

[foti]

im guessing that is why im having trouble determining it my self !

picture is out of the question for atleased 2 more months till they are moved into there own inclosure there in my comunity tank i only get to see them for a
sec before they hide (lights on) .

thank you for the reply much appreciated, i was actualy trying to find research material on the peppermint bristlenose rather than a photo id since i would not be able to provide one
my fault posted in wrong spot!

this came up since i noticed a artical more picture based 'planetcatfish' shows a picture of 2 L071?

L071 rio tapajos
L071 manaus import
both L071

i think this is what confused me

then you have the
L181 rio tafe more dorsal fins
L183 holds its white blade stripe alone dorsal and tail
L249 rio tombetas

i never even knew that there was over 100
i guess i should of taken more time writing post ! :wb:
but if you or anyone else knows of a artical/free sorce of info that is accsessable(not a book) that i could sorce information from

thank you,
foti

 

[Breamlegend]

There is no known L number for Pepps that we have in Australia, likely a cross between two L's. No one will ever know for sure.

 

[foti]

okay
thank you ill stop searching for more info then lol
ps lov d caves

 

[bre]

ancistrus is right. There has never been an exact ID on the "aussie" pep. L183 as far as I knew was the closest to what we have here, but the peps in aus do not keep their white seam.
However, Planet Catfish list L071/L181/L249 as Peppermint Pleco (Australia).
http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/species.php?species_id=1249


Is there any info in particular you were after regarding the pep?

 

[Breamlegend]

Its like they are L183 until about 4-5 cm and then change to L071. lol

 

[AusPleco]

hypethetically if there were more then one L# peppermint in Aus would it be feasible for them to still breed?

Sorry for reviving old thread was just doing some more research on them

 

[Lornek8]

Well, as the older posts said, there is speculation that the Pep in Australia is a hybrid of sorts. Thus there may not be more than one species. Further, the fact that there are more than one L# does not necessarily mean there is more than one species as L#s have nothing to do with species designation.

 

[Mooo]

I have been under the impression that the extra ray (being 9 on an aussie L181 pep) & the loss of the white tail strip when sub adult, distinguished our peps from others :/
Juvie

Sub adult, note the loss of the white tail edging..

Oz Peps
http://www.plecoplanet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1803

http://www.plecoplanet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1804

L183 Ancistrus dolichopterus
http://www.plecoplanet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1805