was cutt off. 1st i never said collectors are wrong just said do we trust them as soon these are to be reclassified re named that is what they are claiming so are they admitting they were wrong or saying we do not know enough about them . last when i say they the same i am claiming that they are the same family not same number as i in no position to say wrong or correct i always answered i do not know as truth none of us know and if one does than they are a scientist