For Sale L397 juvies

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Brengun

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For sale: L397 juvies


Size:- 4cm


Sex(if known):- unsexed


Qty available:- up to 20


Price:- $50 each


Postage/shipping available?:- Auspost express $20 with breathable bags and 72 hour heatpacks to cover remote areas


Location(if pick up only)?:- Lowood if pickup is preferred


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Contact:- pm, I check everyday :)
 

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All sold atm, till I get into the other tank.

Don't panic, I have mixed sizes in there. I just have to find them under all that wood. :)

I won't say how many yet as a few would be less than the proper 4cm and I don't want to send anyone undersized ones. :whistle:

I have also run out of the 72 hour heatpacks and have ordered more from the USA.
Kensfish is usually pretty good in posting over and I should have them in a week or two.

Cheers Brenda.
 

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Hey its Roy they look fantastic would love to get six no pay till 15th Oct can you call to discuss call 0400918309
 

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Here is a link which explains the bags but I do not buy them from that particular supplier.
http://www.novalek.com/kordon/articles/breathing_bags.html

I should add, do not float these bags to acclimatise as the fish will suffocate. Drip method into a bucket is a better idea.

I haven't looked in the second tank and checked sizes yet but I will and get back to everyone in the next few days.

In the mean time I have done up a bit of a care list on keeping L397.

I find for the little fellas ph7 or below is better. Adults can take up in the 7.2 ph range but not the juvies. One buyer got my juvies and popped them from 6.5 straight up into the 7.2 or more and they didn't live 24hours even. Suffice to say, water like you would put discus in is better.

Temp is 26 to 28 and can even be say 30C when you first get them just as good insurance that whitespot ich has no chance of appearing in stressed fish.

If you are setting up a tank special, make sure its cycled with other fish or something first as I can't guarantee these juvis would like going thru and ammonia, nitrite cycle and even in older tanks I wouldn't let the nitrates get to more than 10 or so.

These are panaques are wood eaters so you need driftwood in your tank. I usually buy one of those anubias on dw from the lfs as they seem to like that softer soaked sorta wood and you don't have to spend ages getting it to sink like dry woods.

Food wise, the most nutritious food I feed is a Hikari algae wafer. Being wood eaters they really can't tolerate more meatier foods at all especially as little fellas. Adults can as a bit of a treat but not juvies.
I feed wood which they gnaw off themselves even in a fry saver, hikari algae wafer (one goes a long way and 4 juvies at 4cm would find that plenty. I also feed Sera flora vegetable flake (safe as houses and never killed a fish with that stuff even if overfed), and Cucumber every second or third day. I was feeding cuke every day but i found they were only eating that and got too lazy on woodeating then.

They like good water movement in the tank which you can provide with a bit of a powerhead. They don't have sucker type mouths for nothing but if you hit too high a current you find the food gets blown off and sucked up into the filters a bit fast so a happy medium is required.

Keep an eye out on forum for pics from Mooo. The 4 L397 she has are from me and somehow I think she has trained them to some out and pose for photos. Most of mine are only out after lights off unless I 'spring' em by turning the lights on suddenly, then they are everywhere in the tank lol.

You can keep them in gravel bottom, bare bottom or sand tanks but I found the bare bottom did build up a film on the glass which wasn't much good for juvies. I have undergravel air filters in my tanks which makes the gravel itself the actual filtration media. This means I have really stock up the tank with quite a number of fish over time and the filtration can cope.

I also as well as that and a powerfilter internal, have a canister filter which tends to help suck up the bits of chewed sawdust the L397 can poop out. I don't have to gravel vac near as much then and only do it seriously every couple of weeks or so.

Hope this helps.
Cheers Brenda.
 

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I got my 72 hour heatpacks and am good to go. :woohoo:
Have 20 4cm L397 moved to the sale tank and acclimatised to a more reasonable pH7 and eating well.
Same price as the original post.
Cheers Brenda.
 
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I don't ring nor give out my telephone number.
The advert reads Contact:- pm, I check everyday :)
That means you click on my name and a drop down box should show you where to send me a private message.
If you look up in the top right (up near the facebook logo) you have a private messages area yourself.
Reg you have at least one private message as I answered your post last week.

Cheers Brenda.
 
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