Panaque Plague?

[rian]

About two months ago i moved, 5 L203, 2 L191, and a Papa outside in a pond to take advantage of the summer months warmth. Just today I went to feed them and was actually able to see them and noticed the dreaded panaque plague... The typical 1cm white circles all over the body. I had semi forgot about the L190 living in there and overlooked the plague :wb:
However two weeks prior to today i had moved my Papa back inside and since then i have purchased another larger papa and a xingu. The papa that i brought back in has been acting weird and it's stomach has sunken since bringing it in.
My questions are any way to stop it?
Is the L90 that i brought inside affected and just not showing the plagues typical white circles?

If it helps I've kept all except the recently bought papa and xingu for almost a year now and their all between 2-6"

 

[bigbird]

it is my view, that great stresses are created to Ls when you move them from one tank to another tank or pond. The reaon is in my view, in a tank they have their place and feel comfortable, then they get moved to another area and all unknown to them and new fighting for best logs and rocks etc and also different conditions, so this puts them off food and comfort. You stated you move them to the pond and then 2weeks later one back again and now his stomach is empty . This i would put down to the 2 moves. They will need time to get comfortable for feeding again. Keep an eye on them. I have never heard of the plague so cant help you sorry. In Europe, some breeders use a bale of hay in the pond, to keep algae down and this helps with healthy fish. cheers jk :thumbup:

 

[Lornek8]

Here's an article that may help.
http://plecoplanet.com/?page_id=791

There was another really good one before but have have gone the way of Planetcatfish.
I believe I remember hearing of someone sucessfully treating it. Not sure if it was the person who wrote the attached article or another.

One thing to remember is that outdoor ponds are exposed to a lot of pathogens that can be excluded from indoor aquariums. Birds and other animals can visit the outdoor ponds and leave behind unwanted presents. For aquarium fish that haven't been exposed to these "wild" pathogens for awhile it could easily lead to disease. Furthermore, if the pond is not of sufficient size, fish not used to the temperature swings that can be experienced in a small pond can be negatively affected.

 

[Lornek8]

Which panaque has it?
Panaque plague is typically very fast acting, usually around a few days is all you've got.

 

[matubula]

I had semi forgot about the L190 living in there and overlooked the plague

Do you think your L190 was the cause?

 

[rian]

I'm pretty sure it was the L190. I've had the L203 since december 2009 and they've been healthy since. And the only difference is the they are now with the L190 so i would assume it to be the cause.

 

[Lornek8]

L190 are thought to be immune, unless its simply acting as a carrier.

 

[rian]

right the L190 had already been in the pond and then i added the other panaques which is when the plague showed up.
As for progress it doesn't look to well, no casualties yet but one showing a lot of exposed flesh

 

[Doodles]

Can you get any photos? obviously not if it will stress them out further

 

[Mooo]

OH boy, that sounds terrible..Hope it isn't the dreaded lurgy you think it is..Fast recovery, I'm being optimistic for you..

 

[rian]

I'll try take photo's later today but the casualties are rolling in. 2 L203 and 1 L191
However the largest seems to be holding out well while the others seem to be on the grim side

 

[Doodles]

The only thing I can suggest is to try the meds mentioned in the article if you can get them. At this point I don't see what you have to lose by doing so

 

[rian]

Tried my best to take these. They prcatically look the same and they were taken on June 8th, two days after i noticed the plague and this was one of the larger ones.