Pls help me ID these peppermint bristlenose

[Nat]

Hi everyone,

I have my ideas but would love your opinions. Also, I have bred something very special but am just figuring out how I am going to deal with it..
Thanks for your help,
Nat

Photo 1 11cm - I'm presuming it's a male due to the forked bristles?
Photos 2 & 3 10cm ?
Photo 4 11cm ?
Photos 5, 6 & 7 12cm ?
Photos 8, 9 & 10 11.5cm - Again has forked bristles

 

[OwNz]

l181 or l183 cant really tell need to see its top dorsal fin

 

[kfenk]

are you sure on the sizes of the fish? because at the sizes youve said the males should already have developed decent bristles. And whats this something special youve bred?....

 

[Nat]

Thanks OwNz, I just need to know the sex.
They are peppermint bristlenose.
Yeah sizes are correct, I measured them myself.
I am going to put up a post now...

 

[bigbird]

congrats on your peppermints. well done. not that easy. cheers jk
PS Sexing need full body shots from above and side. At that size males should have more bristles....cheers :thumbup:

 

[Jacqueline]

It's not an L183. It hasn't got any white seam around the dorsalfin and tailfin. L181 has a tiny bit of white on the dorsalfin but I can't find that either. It could be L180 or L182 but depends on the TL of the fish.

 

[Lornek8]

The Ancistrus known as a "Peppermint" in Australia is usually not L180 or L182 as it is in other areas of the world. Typically its been more along the lines of L100(?) or even thought to possibly be a hybrid.

http://www.plecoplanet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5228&highlight=peppermint

 

[Brengun]

I myself always thought it was L182 as only the juveniles have white fin edgings.
They also do not appear to have as many soft rays in the dorsal fin as the dolichopterus.

 

[Mastodon]

Peppermints

Australian "Peppermints" are Ancistrus sp. L071/L181/L249.
http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/species.php?species_id=1249

 

[Brengun]

I was close. Funny no one else picked up my misprint lol. I actually have L181 written down in my L book. Thanks Mastodon.

 

[Breamlegend]

Likely a hybrid. Aus pepps hardly ever get to 20 cm. Fry are different too.