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macvsog23

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Heavy going at points but give a good insite in to what has to happen before we get "Ploppy Plecos" at the LFH
 

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Im trying to find a copy of ICZN's "the code" but had no luck so far, do you know if there is a pdf or downloadable version?
 

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I think if you contact the Natural History Museum in London UK they can supply one I seem to remember getting some stuff from them in the 70,s when I went all scientific over fish.

Regards Bob
 

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Hi all,
Good post, you can get all the details from ICZN at: http://www.iczn.org/iczn/index.jsp. It's the 4th edition.

It's not a catalogue of valid names, it's just the rules for the scientific naming of animals, they are incredibly complicated, a bit like "the rules of golf", and various criteria have to be fulfilled (type specimen(s), location, a holotype, paratypes etc.), which is partially why there a lot of fish in people's tank without a valid scientific name. There is also the "International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature" which settles disputes, and has the final say.

The best bet for finding whether a name is a "valid name" is to type it into "Google Scholar" - so for Bob's "Hemiancistrus subviridis".
Google Scholar search <http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=Hemiancistrus+subviridis&hl=en&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2001&as_sdtp=on>.

and the scientific paper publishing the valid name:

<http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S1679-62252005000400011&script=sci_arttext&tlng=en>

Werneke, D. Sabaj, M; Lujan, N; & Armbruster J. (2005)
"Baryancistrus demantoides and Hemiancistrus subviridis, two new uniquely colored species of catfishes from Venezuela (Siluriformes: Loricariidae)."
Neotrop. ichthyol. 3:4 pp. 533-542.

You will find the names of "Sabaj, Lujan & Armbruster" on many loricariid papers. Armbruster's Loricariid papers are here: <http://www.auburn.edu/~armbrjw/>.

cheers Darrel
 

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The barstewareds at the "International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature" would not let me name a fish after my hero I wanted to call a new sp Polpotus zeroius
 

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Polpotus zeroius
Sheer quality, what is their problem! I don't think you can ever have too many species named after genocidal megalomaniacs. I bet it killed all its tank mates and piled their skulls up in the corner of the tank? I once had a cat a bit like that, the much missed "Nero".

cheers Darrel
 

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Nero

LOL

Now he was a genocidal nut case.

Oh and the dear leader did not kill any one it was the misguided followers who did it?

I did have a ferret named after the British leader Thatcher, I called it arsole.


Regards Brother Number One point one
 

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Nero

LOL

Now he was a genocidal nut case.

Oh and the dear leader did not kill any one it was the misguided followers who did it?

I did have a ferret named after the British leader Thatcher, I called it arsole.


Regards Brother Number One point one
Oh and the K R did not pile the skulls up it was the V C once they Liberated Cambodia. I believe it was Hun Sens idear to have a museum of genocide?

Nice touch that
 

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Hi all,
Not too sure about the "Museum of Genocide", I should thing it gives you something to think about for a very long time afterwards, looking on the bright side I'll bet the restaurant and souvenir shop aren't very busy.

Probably time to stop now before we go too far off-topic, and get into trouble with the mods, I know what you mean, I wanted to call the children "Tolpuddle Matyr" and "Jarrow March" but the wife wouldn't let me.

cheers Darrel