Oak or pine wood?

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Looks like oak to me FF, I got one similar over a year ago from the woods and its been in my tank since then with no problems. All i done to mine was chopped it up, jet washed it and soaked it (in the bath) for a few nights.
 

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Pine will rot in under a year if left exposed to the elements Beech is almost the same a soft wood unless some one slaps you with it.

Oak is hell to cut and very heavy
 

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it is pretty heavy, the first pic shows what appears to be a trunk that a scooped some rotting wood out of, it was that part that was partially buried.
 

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it took me about 2 hours to cut mine into 4 pieces with a hand saw. you'll know when you try to chop it up. Mine had a rotten part on it too but the jet wash took most of it off and the panaques done the rest.
 

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Looks like oak to me FF, I got one similar over a year ago from the woods and its been in my tank since then with no problems. All i done to mine was chopped it up, jet washed it and soaked it (in the bath) for a few nights.
Dont use a bath! i soaked some wood for a furniture project in my parents bath........they never could get the stain off the enamel :whistle: sorry mum! new shower looks fantastic!


i looked earlyer at these photos and i thought beech. without having a close up picture of the end grain cut with a sharp chisle i could not be posative!

http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/fplrn/fplrn004.pdf
to tecnical for this bit of root.
both beech and oak have a fine light line (Ray) that is visable with naked eye goes from center of tree/branch out to the bark. on no account would pine or any softwood have this. again a fresh cut of firm wood cross section would be best .
 

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both beech and oak have a fine light line (Ray) that is visible with naked eye goes from center of tree/branch out to the bark. on no account would pine or any softwood have this. again a fresh cut of firm wood cross section would be best .
Should do.

It isn't Pine, but it might be Douglas Fir (Pseudotsuga), which is very rot resistant
 

dw1305

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Hi all,
Sorry was in a bit of a hurry, the "should do" was to how you could tell whether it was a hard or soft wood. If this stump was Douglas Fir, I'd have no problem with putting it in the tank, because any nasty phenolic and resins would have been lost over time. Even if it was a conifer as long as it has very hard heart wood (like Yew or Douglas Fir) I'd have no problem using it.

Anything that has rotted down to the heart wood should be all right, as this is dead even when it is in the living tree. (Sounds a bit funny, but a tree is a thin living "sarcophagus" of live sap wood and inner bark, all the rest of the wood is dead and just passively transports water and provides structural support). This is why you can kill a tree by ring barking, it's only the cambial layer at the junction between bark and sap wood where growth is occurring.

A lot of "bog Oak" is actually Scots Pine, but during it's (possibly several thousand years) under the peat, it has been entirely permeated with peat and any compounds it contained are replaced by the tannins from the peat.

cheers Darrel
 

FF MkII

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Thank you very much Darrel. I think its either douglas fir or oak.
Now i can continue to clean it up and put it in.

cheers
 

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Just LOGGED in. Wish i could help but it's got me completely STUMPED! I'll search the web, maybe i can get to the ROOT of this. Ahhh i've just TWIGGED! I'd say it's oak but i WOODn't put money on it. I could be BARKing up the wrong TREE :whistle:
 

Stan

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Just LOGGED in. Wish i could help but it's got me completely STUMPED! I'll search the web, maybe i can get to the ROOT of this. Ahhh i've just TWIGGED! I'd say it's oak but i WOODn't put money on it. I could be BARKing up the wrong TREE :whistle:
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