I discovered today my ABNs have spawned. These were to gain some pleco breeding practice. Its a long story I'll try to keep it as short as i can. I started with a trio, until i discovered two were males, my plan was to rehome one. Before i could put this plan into action, out of the blue they spawned in a 4ft tank. The males showed no interest in caves or the female. Then last Friday i noticed male#1chasing the female around a cave, it was quite sudden,( not like my L397s who choose their caves at about 7cm size they are 12cm subadults now engaging in pre spawning behaviour. But no results) . I discovered male#1 fanning on Sunday. On monday male#2 was chasing the female around i put caves for them at the other end of the tank. However it seemed they would spawn in a hole in a piece of bogwood i placed above male#1s cave. Male#2 choose a cave at the other end of the tank he'd been fanning it since monday. But the girl hung out more near male#1s cave. Today i returned from work to discover the males viciously fighting. I decided to take male#2 to the LFS I work at. I lifted him out inside his cave once I'd broken up the fight and encouraged him into it. My assumption was that male#2 had raided male #1s cave, as by time id packed him to take to the shop male#1was back fanning his cave. A while later i discovered a clutch of eggs on the substrate i cant be certain how long they'd been there. Ive placed the cluch into a net breeder with airstones underneath it. Some of the eggs in the centre seem viable are very yolky darker yellow and not transparent , the ones on the outside are transparent , pale yellow coloured and i can't see anything developing inside any of them, maybe these are infertile. The plot thickens now:dk:, I'm not sure if male#1 or male#2 is the dad, the difference being here if male #1 is the eggs are potentially 5 days old, then i should be seeing fry or hatching. If male#2 is the dad, they are less than three days old. My main questions are, when do fry appear to show in the eggs? Should I attempt to separate the ones on the outside of the clutch? Any tips on how? I dont want to give up on them this is my first pleco breeding experience. But also a first for the ABNs, also to mention the male#1 that i still have is now chasing the female around.