Help please shrimp in breeding tanks

[roydon]

hey guys can any one help me have colonys of common, albino, longfin, peppermints, L66, L102 all going off at the momment have shrimp in all tanks will shrimp eat the fry? put shrimp in tanks some tanks bare bottom with sponge filters some ugf system only untill such time i finish my fish room and it all will be just running sponges and mini reefs three tier tanks with built in fry tank can any one help or suggest which way to go or what im doing wrong

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[Mooo]

All sounds good to me, so long as the sponge filters are big enough to cope with the bio load, You should have little problems. The water is what you are actually keeping, so keep it right & the creatures you keep in it will thrive.
Depending on the shrimp. The shrimp, ie normal every day ones, Cherry, Ghost, Glass, Crystal, Kungfu, all wont eat the fry, Don't panic...The Long Armed Shrimp is a danger in a fish tank tho, If it can catch fry it will eat them.
All shrimp will however eat any dead fry.
The bn/plecs won't let anything near the eggs or fry till they are safe anyway...you shouldn't have a problem..
My 3 different types of shrimp actually clean all my Dwarf Cichlid eggs for me...Keeping fungus at bay...A great team of cleaners...

 

[roydon]

thanks MOO what happens if eggs escape and still have egg sacs still attached im finding 100s in my tank with eggsacs still attached like ther just hatched

 

[Mooo]

You scoop them up and put in a fry saver or tea strainer or strainer of some kind, with air bubbling through it in same tank, or pop them into an egg tumbler with the air on slow...They should be fine ...You will have to raise them tho.. keep them in the parent tank...Don't feed till egg sacs are absorbed.

 

[roydon]

moo can i get your mobile so we can have a chat

 

[Irene0100]

I keep cherry shrimp in with my breeding BNs and L46, I add them to the L270 tank sometimes but they go so I think they eat them.

 

[Mooo]

Hiya..
Sorry Roydon...I am not in the practice of giving out my phone number ...
If you would like to shoot me a PM with as many questions as you like, feel free, I'll answer what I can, asap...:yes:

 

[dw1305]

Hi all,
I think Red Cherry and Crystal Red are fry and egg safe. I've used RCS, Asellus ("Water Louse") and Malaysian Trumpet Snails as fry & egg tenders without any problem. Ingo Seidel recommends MTS as egg cleaners in the "Back to Nature guide to L...."

This is via Larry Waybright ("Apistomaster")

My experience has mostly been with Cherry Shrimp but I did get a large colony of Crystal Red Shrimp established in my permanent breeding set up of Corydoras habrosus and the shrimp had no effect on egg/larvae survival. ...... I also keep Cherry Shrimp in my permanent Corydoras hastatus breeding tank...... C. habrosus eggs are about the same size as Fp. gardneri and C.hstatus eggs are smaller, about the size of most Aphyosemion.
The Catfish eggs take 5 days to hatch and are tough skinned like Killiefish eggs; the eggs may be handled by my fingers just like those of Killies.
I like the fact I can culture both shrimp and Catfish together without any problems.

and another one from the American Killifish Association

I use both crystal red and cherry shrimp to water incubate killie eggs as a matter of routine. This began when I had a huge excess of Aphyosemion striatum eggs. I decided to feed the eggs to my crystal red shrimp. Instead eating the eggs, however, they tended them. The shrimp constantly cleaned the eggs of any detritus. I think 100% of them hatched. The shrimp did not damage the resulting fry either. So far, I have used shrimp to incubate A. striatum, Fp. gardneri, and Fundulus catenatus. I also add them to the tubs when I wet the peat moss from annual eggs. Their constant cleaning seems to help annual eggs hatch. In my experience, they are much more effective than the several dyes we commonly add to our killie eggs. I highly recommend using them with killies. Just make sure that you don't use shrimp species with pinchers (ghost shrimp, for example) as these will definitely eat eggs/fry.

I'm like Irene I have more of a problem with the fish eating the shrimps than the other way around, but I think we did have a post where some-one had put shrimps in with their Angel-fish fry and the shrimp had eaten them? but I can't remember which shrimp it was or find the post (might have been on PF?).

I've never kept Amano's, Long-armed or Ghost/Glass Shrimps myself. I'd be a little concerned about the Ghost/Glass shrimps (Palaemon), or any other that have obvious claws, and I think Macrobrachium (Long-armed) are an obvious non-starter as Moo says.

cheers Darrel

 

[roydon]

Thanks guys for responses wasnt sure on the above ive never put them in any of my tanks before

 

[foti]

i never knew shrimp eat dead fry
Thanks for that Mooo out of all shrimp which would you say is the hardest ?

 

[dw1305]

Hi all,

out of all shrimp which would you say is the hardest ?

Definitely Mantis shrimp, they are the Manny Pacquiao's of the Crustacean world.
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cheers Darrel

 

[Brengun]

I doubt his plecos will survive in the salt water the mantis shrimp inhabits.
Go for cherry shrimp, they breed like crazy and sell 4 for a dollar up to fifty cents each from breeders.

 

[dw1305]

Hi all,

I doubt his plecos will survive in the salt water the mantis shrimp inhabits.

I'd agree with RCS as the hardiest, but I don't think they are anything like as pugnacious as Mantis Shrimps, and he did ask which were hardest.

cheers Darrel