l202 pair wont breed

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paddo94

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I have a l202 pair that have been in the tank over 6 months now so they should be settled one would think,
The female is very plump as of the last month and male still no fanning action going on. Tho saw some marks on the girl.
Water perimetres are all ok. Temp ok. 2ft tank.
1 cave each for the 2.


Any tips or suggestions to breeding these guys?
 
YAL05T

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Mate, some catfish will take a hell of a long time to settle in enough to spawn. My 134's and 004's took near on three years to kick off. Some folks will change a tank around and hit it and they will spawn, others will change the tank decor and parameters every few months and keep setting them back.

Personally I will give them about a year to show some signs of spawning then I will make small adjustments. For the 134's it was as simple as tighter caves.

Try hunting about for breeding reports of 202's and see if you are close to the set up that worked, not that this is a certainty either.
 
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1 male = 1 cave...... once hes chosen his prefered cave take the other one out... give the female some cover near cave entrance so she feels safe entering his cave.... and then just feed and waterchange and let them do their thing when they are ready... cant force two fish to breed they will breed when they are both sexually mature and are interested in breeding... :thumbup:

and when ever i hear water parameters are all good/perfect little alarm bells start ringing... perhaps test your water for ammonia, nitrite , nitrate , phosphates , ph , gh , kh , and read temp off at least 2 different thermometers to get an average reading of temp.... use good test kits and remember to shake the bottles well before use, especially nitrate test bottle solutions.... anyone of the above tests may well show a reason why they arent breeding... fish tank water is an art of chemistry - and if you get it right and keep it that way fish will breed guaranteed....
 
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Ok so here they are.
L202 tank.
Amm: 0ppm
Nitrites: 0ppm
Nitrates: 0ppm
Ph: 8.0
Tds: 179ppm
Temp: 26.5degrees.

L333 tank.
Amm:0.25ppm
Nitrites: 0ppm
Nitrates: 10ppm
Ph: 7.6
Tds: 261ppm
Temp: 27.5degrees.

All readings taken 2 hours after water changes.
 
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202 tank concerns me as it has no nitrate... ??? are you running a denitrator ?
ph is rather high... closer to 7 is best....

333 tank i'd be asking why you have any ammonia reading ?
ph is better closer to 7 also...

what sorta kh does your water have ?

are you using anything to raise or lower ph ?

do you have any limestone/coral or substrate that raises ph ?
 
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Will test again today. 202 tank is bare bottom 2 internal filters. Normally sits around 6.8- 7 as have almond leaves in there but ran out.

Not sure on kh.

using almond leaves to lower getting a bunch of wood
Soon to help lower ph.

333 tank has black galaxy sand.
 
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333 tank: black galaxy sand, slate pieces for hides. Few clay pots. Aquaone internal 104. Young breeding pair bristlenoses just had first spawn last week. 12 odd american firemouth fry 1 -3 cm. 2 new clay breeding logs 3cm round.

l202 tank. Bare bottom. Slate cave, pvc pipe cave. Clay pot. Piece of driftwood. 2 internals. 2 new clay breeding logs 3.5cm round

Both have IAL in them aswel.

Will retest today and upload.
Thanks guys
 
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30/4/14 water readings.

L333 tank
Ph: 8.0
Amm: 0ppm
Nitrites: 0ppm
Nitrates: 10ppm
Tds: 278ppm
Temp: 29 degrees Celsius.

L202 tank.
Ph: 8.0
Amm: 0ppm
Nitrites: 0ppm
Nitrates: 5ppm
Tds: 180ppm
Temp: 25 degrees Celsius.
 
Irene0100

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can you add any RO or clean rain water? i think ph is much too high 6.5 would be be good.
also water change with cool water every other day maybe 20%, and up temp tank to 28
 
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Hi Irene. Wanting to get an ro system and when it rains I cant collect enough to keep me going, I need to get a rain water tank or ask Someone that has. So I have a constant supply. I was using rainwater once and noticed some different behavior like male starting too fan, but it stopped raining so I had to go back to tap water and yep male stopped fanning.

At the lps they use peat in bags to lower ph. Could I go this way for the time being to lower ph?
Also is it safe and how long would it last befor I would need to replace?
Thanks
 
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Depends on the amount of rainfall, you only want to collect the rain water from roof after it has been raining for awhile to wash off all the contaminants. Go online and check out some of the designs people used to 'dump' out the initial dirty rain water before diverting to barrels.

I came up with a design that I can adjust the amount of dirty rain water I dump out by season. Let's say the rainfall in summer is infrequent so, I would dump out more before diverting to collection stations. While rainfall is more constant during winter, so less is wasted. Lots of good ideas on the internet.
 
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until you can get rain or RO, try lowering ph with some black water extract, indian almond leaves. i have not tried peat but i would expect it would work, no idea how much to use. try standing the treated tap water in large container for a few days with some peat in it, then you can test it before using for water changes maybe.
 
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