Looks like a huge lose

[jamous91]

big about of whiptail fry died just hours old hope i get ten

 

[bigbird]

:cry: sorry for your loss. hope some survive. cheers jk :thumbup:

 

[jamous91]

:cry: sorry for your loss. hope some survive. cheers jk :thumbup:

thanks and would it help if i hard a bare bottom

 

[scatz]

sorry to hear its not going well, there must be something wrong with the water if they are dying so fast, i hope some do make it

 

[Bigjohnnofish]

gravel is a much better substrate than a glass bottom as far as fry survival goes..... theres plenty of reasons why, but i dont have the time to go through them all now!.....

fry dying so quick is an indication the water is at a toxic level for them... whether it be nitrates,nitrites,ammonia,copper,heavy metals or some of the chemicals added to your tap water before it gets to you....
if i was a betting man i'd go ammonia......

just be carefull whatever it is - it doesnt get worse and kill ya parents too :dk:

 

[jamous91]

gravel is a much better substrate than a glass bottom as far as fry survival goes..... theres plenty of reasons why, but i dont have the time to go through them all now!.....

fry dying so quick is an indication the water is at a toxic level for them... whether it be nitrates,nitrites,ammonia,copper,heavy metals or some of the chemicals added to your tap water before it gets to you....
if i was a betting man i'd go ammonia......

just be carefull whatever it is - it doesnt get worse and kill ya parents too :dk:

i am not trying to be rude or make out that your wrong but if everything that you have said is wrong then why did the parents lay there eggs in the first place

 

[scatz]

i am not trying to be rude or make out that your wrong but if everything that you have said is wrong then why did the parents lay there eggs in the first place

fry are much more delicate than adults, the water needs to be near to perfect for a good survival rate, the fact that your fry died so soon means that something is wrong with the water.
The matter can worsen quickly, lots of dead fry will add more toxins to the water.
up the water change regime to make sure its as clean as you can keep it

Having fish breed is no indication that the water is good, it just means that you have a pair of mature fish and that the set up is ok for them

 

[jamous91]

fry are much more delicate than adults, the water needs to be near to perfect for a good survival rate, the fact that your fry died so soon means that something is wrong with the water.
The matter can worsen quickly, lots of dead fry will add more toxins to the water.
up the water change regime to make sure its as clean as you can keep it

Having fish breed is no indication that the water is good, it just means that you have a pair of mature fish and that the set up is ok for them

i think i better start cleaning the bottom tank p.s both my tanks have sand in them i thought it looked good but now it is a pain in the bck side

 

[JoePlec]

i think i better start cleaning the bottom tank p.s both my tanks have sand in them i thought it looked good but now it is a pain in the bck side

When doing a water change do you stir your sand up? What filtration is on the tank? When was last water change and what % was changed?

 

[jamous91]

When doing a water change do you stir your sand up? What filtration is on the tank? When was last water change and what % was changed?

the tank the fry is in is a sponge filter and no i do nnnot

 

[JoePlec]

the tank the fry is in is a sponge filter and no i do nnnot

Sounds like you have found your culprit. Sand will hold toxins and if not stirred will mess your water up. And sponge filter is not going to do nothing to help that. The fry never really had a chance mate. Few large water changes and stir the sand as you go. Then stir it every waterchange before you take water out. Put it down to experiance.

How often are water changes on the tank and what percentage do you change.

 

[jamous91]

Sounds like you have found your culprit. Sand will hold toxins and if not stirred will mess your water up. And sponge filter is not going to do nothing to help that. The fry never really had a chance mate. Few large water changes and stir the sand as you go. Then stir it every waterchange before you take water out. Put it down to experiance.

How often are water changes on the tank and what percentage do you change.

once a week but tank was not used for few week but i think i will change it all out and i have done a new thread so can u take a look

 

[Lornek8]

once a week but tank was not used for few week

Was the tank completely empty?
Were the filters in the tank as well?

 

[jamous91]

everything was wrong and wa sin the tank but no fish

 

[Lornek8]

Filters lose biological capacity if no fish are present in the tank for an extended period. Have you checked water parameters?

 

[Irene0100]

oh dear, maybe the sand is too deep, how deep is it?
i agree best chance for now is a large water change with water at same temp as tank.
also make sure the water is well oxygenated.
please tell us more, such as tank size, temp, how hard/soft the water is, ph etc

 

[jamous91]

oh dear, maybe the sand is too deep, how deep is it?
i agree best chance for now is a large water change with water at same temp as tank.
also make sure the water is well oxygenated.
please tell us more, such as tank size, temp, how hard/soft the water is, ph etc

sponge filter
bit more than half a inch of sand bog wood and tube that is 6 inch long

 

[scatz]

so the tank with the fry in was left running empty for a few weeks before the fry went in?

 

[jamous91]

so the tank with the fry in was left running empty for a few weeks before the fry went in?

no the adluts were in about 8 days or so thts where they liad the eggs

 

[JoePlec]

no the adluts were in about 8 days or so thts where they liad the eggs

I dont get why you move fish around all the time.. What you say doesnt really make sense can you run down where the fish were at first then why you moved them then why you moved the fry and back again ? I cant work out your fishkeeping.